ART: Yahoo drops google.

"Heidi" <blackcat2.DeleteThis@zwallet.com> wrote in message
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 > 19 February 2004
 > Yahoo! drops Google: Webmasters must pay up
 >
 > Yahoo! has dropped Google results from its search engine in favour of its
 > own paid-inclusion service.
 > Commercial sites will now be forced to pay Yahoo! to get their site listed
 > if they want to benefit from Yahoo!'s large user base. Previously,
 > webmasters could pick up visitors from Yahoo! by submitting their sites
for
 > free to Google. So far Google has resisted the trend to charge webmasters
to
 > submit their sites to the search engine, making money instead by selling
 > keyword-triggered adverts alongside search results.
 >
 > The move follows Yahoo!'s acquisition last year of search technology
company
 > Inktomi, which lists MSN, About, Hotbot and Overture among its partners.
 >
 > Inktomi charges $40 (¡Ì21) to submit a URL ($25 for subsequent URLs) and
 > Yahoo! charges $300 (¡Ì159) for commercial sites to enter its directory.
 > With MSN believed to be developing its own technology to replace its use
of
 > Yahoo!'s results, it promises to get a lot more expensive for webmasters
to
 > draw visitors to their websites from portals.
 >
 > Article link:
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.internet-magazine.com/news/view.asp?id=3928</font" target="_blank">http://www.internet-magazine.com/news/view.asp?id=3928</font</a>>
 >
 > ----------------------------
 > Well looks like I lose a good portion of visitors to my sites since many
 > came from Yahoo because they
 > used google results. *sigh*
 >
 >
 > --
 > Heidi
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 >


Horsedroppings!
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"Heidi" <blackcat2.RemoveThis@zwallet.com> wrote in
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 > 19 February 2004
 > Yahoo! drops Google: Webmasters must pay up
 >
 > Yahoo! has dropped Google results from its search engine in favour of
 > its own paid-inclusion service.
 > Commercial sites will now be forced to pay Yahoo! to get their site
 > listed if they want to benefit from Yahoo!'s large user base.
 > Previously, webmasters could pick up visitors from Yahoo! by
 > submitting their sites for free to Google. So far Google has resisted
 > the trend to charge webmasters to submit their sites to the search
 > engine, making money instead by selling keyword-triggered adverts
 > alongside search results.
 >
 > The move follows Yahoo!'s acquisition last year of search technology
 > company Inktomi, which lists MSN, About, Hotbot and Overture among its
 > partners.
 >
 > Inktomi charges $40 (¡Ì21) to submit a URL ($25 for subsequent URLs)
 > and Yahoo! charges $300 (¡Ì159) for commercial sites to enter its
 > directory. With MSN believed to be developing its own technology to
 > replace its use of Yahoo!'s results, it promises to get a lot more
 > expensive for webmasters to draw visitors to their websites from
 > portals.
 >
 > Article link:
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.internet-magazine.com/news/view.asp?id=3928</font" target="_blank">http://www.internet-magazine.com/news/view.asp?id=3928</font</a>>
 >
 > ----------------------------
 > Well looks like I lose a good portion of visitors to my sites since
 > many came from Yahoo because they
 > used google results. *sigh*

Yeah, kinda old-ish news. The IAR reported this in late December, IIRC
(though well worth repeating here, since many won't be aware of it.)

FWIW, networksolutions has a link to submit a site for US$39.95 on their
site;

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/build-it/inktomi.jhtml" target="_blank">http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/build-it/inktomi.jhtml</a>

Which submits via Inktomi - which would (I hope) also help to populate
Yahoo links...


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GreyWyvern wrote:
 > On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 20:20:23 GMT, Heidi <blackcat2.RemoveThis@zwallet.com> wrote:
 >
  >> Well looks like I lose a good portion of visitors to my sites since
  >> many came from Yahoo because they
  >> used google results. *sigh*
 >
 > You know, all this could be fixed if we gave bots administrative
 > priviledges. Then they could go through the net and junk any site
 > with outdated, redundant or generally silly content. After that, the
 > world would be a better place.

Great idea - whose first?

/looks around
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 > Search: unlimited dialup access
 > See who's #1

themooseisloose.net

Who's that then?

I wonder if that's "aboot this hoose"?
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 > "Allis" <allis RemoveThis @allis.com> wrote in message
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 >
  > > Search: unlimited dialup access
  > > See who's #1
 >
 > themooseisloose.net
 >
 > Who's that then?
 >
 > I wonder if that's "aboot this hoose"?
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The most recent issue of Technology Review has an article on search
engines called "Keeping an Eye on Google" at
http://technologyreview.com/articles/roush20304.asp - includes an
interesting Australian s.e. currently in beta, called Mooter -
http://www.mooter.com
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"Allis" <allis DeleteThis @allis.com> wrote in message
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 > "Charles Sweeney" <me DeleteThis @charlessweeney.com> wrote in message
 > news:c13lmf$1elh1d$1@ID-162618.news.uni-berlin.de...
  > > "Allis" <allis DeleteThis @allis.com> wrote in message
  > > news:nvOdneF7co94zajdRVn-uw@comcast.com...
  > >
   > > > Search: unlimited dialup access
   > > > See who's #1
  > >
  > > themooseisloose.net
  > >
  > > Who's that then?
  > >
  > > I wonder if that's "aboot this hoose"?
  > > --
  > > Charles Sweeney
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.CharlesSweeney.com</font" target="_blank">www.CharlesSweeney.com</font</a>>
  > >
 >
 >
 > Hiya Charles. How's ableinternet doing?
 > Longish time, no chat to.

Greetings. Ableinternet is doing well as far as I can tell, it moved to
America!
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"Charles Sweeney" <me.RemoveThis@charlessweeney.com> wrote in message
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 > "Allis" <allis.RemoveThis@allis.com> wrote in message
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  > >
  > > "Charles Sweeney" <me.RemoveThis@charlessweeney.com> wrote in message
  > > news:c13lmf$1elh1d$1@ID-162618.news.uni-berlin.de...
   > > > "Allis" <allis.RemoveThis@allis.com> wrote in message
   > > > news:nvOdneF7co94zajdRVn-uw@comcast.com...
   > > >
   > > > > Search: unlimited dialup access
   > > > > See who's #1
   > > >
   > > > themooseisloose.net
   > > >
   > > > Who's that then?
   > > >
   > > > I wonder if that's "aboot this hoose"?
   > > > --
   > > > Charles Sweeney
<font color=brown>   > > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.CharlesSweeney.com</font" target="_blank">www.CharlesSweeney.com</font</a>>
   > > >
  > >
  > >
  > > Hiya Charles. How's ableinternet doing?
  > > Longish time, no chat to.
 >
 > Greetings. Ableinternet is doing well as far as I can tell, it moved to
 > America!
 > --
 > Charles Sweeney
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.CharlesSweeney.com</font" target="_blank">www.CharlesSweeney.com</font</a>>
 >

You moved your operation to the states??
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 > "Charles Sweeney" <me DeleteThis @charlessweeney.com> wrote in message
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  > > "Allis" <allis DeleteThis @allis.com> wrote in message
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   > > >
   > > > "Charles Sweeney" <me DeleteThis @charlessweeney.com> wrote in message
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   > > > > "Allis" <allis DeleteThis @allis.com> wrote in message
   > > > > news:nvOdneF7co94zajdRVn-uw@comcast.com...
   > > > >
   > > > > > Search: unlimited dialup access
   > > > > > See who's #1
   > > > >
   > > > > themooseisloose.net
   > > > >
   > > > > Who's that then?
   > > > >
   > > > > I wonder if that's "aboot this hoose"?
   > > > > --
   > > > > Charles Sweeney
<font color=brown>   > > > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.CharlesSweeney.com</font" target="_blank">www.CharlesSweeney.com</font</a>>
   > > > >
   > > >
   > > >
   > > > Hiya Charles. How's ableinternet doing?
   > > > Longish time, no chat to.
  > >
  > > Greetings. Ableinternet is doing well as far as I can tell, it moved to
  > > America!
  > > --
  > > Charles Sweeney
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.CharlesSweeney.com</font" target="_blank">www.CharlesSweeney.com</font</a>>
  > >
 >
 > You moved your operation to the states??
 > No kidding. Coolio.

No. I sold it.
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"Heidi" <blackcat2 RemoveThis @zwallet.com> wrote in message
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 > 19 February 2004
 > Yahoo! drops Google: Webmasters must pay up
 >
 > Yahoo! has dropped Google results from its search engine in favour of its
 > own paid-inclusion service.
 > Commercial sites will now be forced to pay Yahoo! to get their site listed
 > if they want to benefit from Yahoo!'s large user base. Previously,
 > webmasters could pick up visitors from Yahoo! by submitting their sites
for
 > free to Google. So far Google has resisted the trend to charge webmasters
to
 > submit their sites to the search engine, making money instead by selling
 > keyword-triggered adverts alongside search results.
Soooo, if I read this right, the wheel turns - those of us who do not rely
on SE for traffic now come into our own.

For those who do depend on SE, how many would pay to be included - and what
value is there in paying to be listed on page 30067 - or worse?

As I have said before, IMO SEs are great for finding sites but not so good
for being found.


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Bill Logan wrote:
 > "Heidi" <blackcat2.DeleteThis@zwallet.com> wrote in message
 > news:bU8Zb.9899$jl.1921@fe2.texas.rr.com...
  >> 19 February 2004
  >> Yahoo! drops Google: Webmasters must pay up
  >>
 > ...
 > how many would pay to be included

not me - well not on a general purpose site like yahoo.

but, I don't begrudge them charging - they gotta pay the rent - their
visitors will decide if they're providing a good service.

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"Bill Logan" <who.TakeThisOut@what.com> wrote in news:40353026$1@clear.net.nz:

 >
 > "Heidi" <blackcat2.TakeThisOut@zwallet.com> wrote in message
 > news:bU8Zb.9899$jl.1921@fe2.texas.rr.com...
  >> 19 February 2004
  >> Yahoo! drops Google: Webmasters must pay up
  >>
  >> Yahoo! has dropped Google results from its search engine in favour of
  >> its own paid-inclusion service.
  >> Commercial sites will now be forced to pay Yahoo! to get their site
  >> listed if they want to benefit from Yahoo!'s large user base.
  >> Previously, webmasters could pick up visitors from Yahoo! by
  >> submitting their sites
 > for
  >> free to Google. So far Google has resisted the trend to charge
  >> webmasters
 > to
  >> submit their sites to the search engine, making money instead by
  >> selling keyword-triggered adverts alongside search results.
 > Soooo, if I read this right, the wheel turns - those of us who do not
 > rely on SE for traffic now come into our own.
 >
 > For those who do depend on SE, how many would pay to be included - and
 > what value is there in paying to be listed on page 30067 - or worse?
 >
 > As I have said before, IMO SEs are great for finding sites but not so
 > good for being found.

Bill, you're my kinda guy in that thinking

It is frustrating, a little, to hear some supposed 'experts' go on and on
about how you're nothing without a high google ranking.



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Marc Bissonnette wrote:
 > "Bill Logan" <who.DeleteThis@what.com> wrote in news:40353026$1@clear.net.nz:
 >
  >>
  >> "Heidi" <blackcat2.DeleteThis@zwallet.com> wrote in message
  >> news:bU8Zb.9899$jl.1921@fe2.texas.rr.com...
   >>> 19 February 2004
   >>> Yahoo! drops Google: Webmasters must pay up
   >>>
   >>> Yahoo! has dropped Google results from its search engine in favour
   >>> of its own paid-inclusion service.
   >>> Commercial sites will now be forced to pay Yahoo! to get their site
   >>> listed if they want to benefit from Yahoo!'s large user base.
   >>> Previously, webmasters could pick up visitors from Yahoo! by
   >>> submitting their sites
  >> for
   >>> free to Google. So far Google has resisted the trend to charge
   >>> webmasters
  >> to
   >>> submit their sites to the search engine, making money instead by
   >>> selling keyword-triggered adverts alongside search results.
  >> Soooo, if I read this right, the wheel turns - those of us who do not
  >> rely on SE for traffic now come into our own.
  >>
  >> For those who do depend on SE, how many would pay to be included -
  >> and what value is there in paying to be listed on page 30067 - or
  >> worse?
  >>
  >> As I have said before, IMO SEs are great for finding sites but not so
  >> good for being found.
 >
 > Bill, you're my kinda guy in that thinking
 >
 > It is frustrating, a little, to hear some supposed 'experts' go on
 > and on about how you're nothing without a high google ranking.

exactly - take it while it's there, don't grieve when it's gone

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