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riprod

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Since: Apr 02, 2005
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 9:10 am
Post subject: 3rd try : HTTP/1.1 New Session Failed & sessions resetting
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I've posted a 2 previous messages and spent hours on the phone with MS's
Indian support (WHO I CAN BARELY UNDERSTAND).

I have a Win 2003 SP1 were with IIS 6 and host about 40 websites, most of
them useing ASP/VB with access databases. The server is a Dell Dual 2.4Ghz
XEON with 512Mb Ram.

Every few days I get the error "HTTP/1.1 New Session Failed" and the server
stops showing the sites. It comes right after a bit and then comes back. I
have separed the sites into 10 per application pool but it still does it.
Occassionally it will actually work but the sessions just keep resetting and
the users get loged out of admin sections every 2 or 3 minutes.

There is a hotifx 838306 which according to MS is in SP1 but according to
everyone else, is NOT. It wont install on SP 1 because it needs another
hotfix first (837001), which will not install because there is a later
version of the 2nd hotfix in SP1. Catch 22!

So my solution is to set up my server to reboot every night at 2am. That
keeps it going.... barely.
People keep saying you don't need to rebook, just recycle the app pools.
Well that does not fix anything, only a cold reboot solves the problem... for
a few hours anyway.

UURRRRGGGG! Please can someone help.

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kgafvert

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Since: Aug 23, 2003
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 11:53 am
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Does it happen to all websites? Or only to those in the same application
pool?

Does the websites use the same web application, or different web
applications? Is the web application(s) written by the same programmer?

You can get this problem if a database connection is not closed.


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riprod wrote:

 > I've posted a 2 previous messages and spent hours on the phone with MS's
 > Indian support (WHO I CAN BARELY UNDERSTAND).
 >
 > I have a Win 2003 SP1 were with IIS 6 and host about 40 websites, most of
 > them useing ASP/VB with access databases. The server is a Dell Dual
2.4Ghz
 > XEON with 512Mb Ram.
 >
 > Every few days I get the error "HTTP/1.1 New Session Failed" and the
server
 > stops showing the sites. It comes right after a bit and then comes back.
I
 > have separed the sites into 10 per application pool but it still does it.
 > Occassionally it will actually work but the sessions just keep resetting
and
 > the users get loged out of admin sections every 2 or 3 minutes.
 >
 > There is a hotifx 838306 which according to MS is in SP1 but according to
 > everyone else, is NOT. It wont install on SP 1 because it needs another
 > hotfix first (837001), which will not install because there is a later
 > version of the 2nd hotfix in SP1. Catch 22!
 >
 > So my solution is to set up my server to reboot every night at 2am. That
 > keeps it going.... barely.
 > People keep saying you don't need to rebook, just recycle the app pools.
 > Well that does not fix anything, only a cold reboot solves the
problem... for
 > a few hours anyway.
 >
 > UURRRRGGGG! Please can someone help.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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riprod

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 12:10 pm
Post subject: Re: 3rd try : HTTP/1.1 New Session Failed & sessions resetting [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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It does not happen to all the websites, it affects all the sites in teh same
application pool. But it is strange because yesterday it was doing it to 2
different application pools.

No they are not writen by the same person and they are not the same web
application. There are multiple access driven web applications writien by
different people.

Yes, I get the same proble even if the webpage is simply named ASP with no
database connection at all.

thanks

"Kristofer Gafvert" wrote:

 > Does it happen to all websites? Or only to those in the same application
 > pool?
 >
 > Does the websites use the same web application, or different web
 > applications? Is the web application(s) written by the same programmer?
 >
 > You can get this problem if a database connection is not closed.
 >
 >
 > --
 > Regards,
 > Kristofer Gafvert
 > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.gafvert.info" target="_blank">www.gafvert.info</a> - My Articles and help
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.ilopia.com</font" target="_blank">www.ilopia.com</font</a>>
 >
 >
 > riprod wrote:
 >
  > > I've posted a 2 previous messages and spent hours on the phone with MS's
  > > Indian support (WHO I CAN BARELY UNDERSTAND).
  > >
  > > I have a Win 2003 SP1 were with IIS 6 and host about 40 websites, most of
  > > them useing ASP/VB with access databases. The server is a Dell Dual
 > 2.4Ghz
  > > XEON with 512Mb Ram.
  > >
  > > Every few days I get the error "HTTP/1.1 New Session Failed" and the
 > server
  > > stops showing the sites. It comes right after a bit and then comes back.
 > I
  > > have separed the sites into 10 per application pool but it still does it.
  > > Occassionally it will actually work but the sessions just keep resetting
 > and
  > > the users get loged out of admin sections every 2 or 3 minutes.
  > >
  > > There is a hotifx 838306 which according to MS is in SP1 but according to
  > > everyone else, is NOT. It wont install on SP 1 because it needs another
  > > hotfix first (837001), which will not install because there is a later
  > > version of the 2nd hotfix in SP1. Catch 22!
  > >
  > > So my solution is to set up my server to reboot every night at 2am. That
  > > keeps it going.... barely.
  > > People keep saying you don't need to rebook, just recycle the app pools.
  > > Well that does not fix anything, only a cold reboot solves the
 > problem... for
  > > a few hours anyway.
  > >
  > > UURRRRGGGG! Please can someone help.
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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kgafvert

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 12:47 pm
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Do you have any relevant information in the eventlog?

I was hoping that we could narrow it down to one web application (it is so
much easier to solve if it is a web application), but since it is
happening to two different application pools, it does not seem to be one
specific web application.

Hotfix 838306 is not included in SP1 according to this list:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/824721" target="_blank">http://support.microsoft.com/kb/824721</a>

So you should be able to get a hotfix that is compatible with machines
running SP1, as soon as they have it available (your Microsoft contact
should be able to help you with this). But i am not sure if this hotfix
will help ("stop responding" is a very broad term).

Have you tried to post to the ASP newsgroup? Since it is only happening to
ASP applications, maybe the people there have some more information on
this. The newsgroup is:

microsoft.public.inetserver.asp.general

The ASP experts may also know what can cause this error message to occur
(what is returning this error message in the ASP dll)

The next step *i* would take is to put each website in its own application
pool, and see if there seems to be some kind of pattern to which websites
this is happening to, and what they have in common.

I understand that this is frustrating, especially on a live server, but
right now, we do not know why it is happening, so we do not know what
hotfixes (if any) will solve the problem.

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Regards,
Kristofer Gafvert
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.gafvert.info" target="_blank">www.gafvert.info</a> - My Articles and help
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riprod wrote:

 > It does not happen to all the websites, it affects all the sites in teh
same
 > application pool. But it is strange because yesterday it was doing it to
2
 > different application pools.
 >
 > No they are not writen by the same person and they are not the same web
 > application. There are multiple access driven web applications writien by
 > different people.
 >
 > Yes, I get the same proble even if the webpage is simply named ASP with
no
 > database connection at all.
 >
 > thanks
 >
 > "Kristofer Gafvert" wrote:
 >
  > > Does it happen to all websites? Or only to those in the same
application
  > > pool?
  > >
  > > Does the websites use the same web application, or different web
  > > applications? Is the web application(s) written by the same programmer?
  > >
  > > You can get this problem if a database connection is not closed.
  > >
  > >
  > > --
  > > Regards,
  > > Kristofer Gafvert
  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.gafvert.info" target="_blank">www.gafvert.info</a> - My Articles and help
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.ilopia.com</font" target="_blank">www.ilopia.com</font</a>>
  > >
  > >
  > > riprod wrote:
  > >
   > > > I've posted a 2 previous messages and spent hours on the phone with
MS's
   > > > Indian support (WHO I CAN BARELY UNDERSTAND).
   > > >
   > > > I have a Win 2003 SP1 were with IIS 6 and host about 40 websites,
most of
   > > > them useing ASP/VB with access databases. The server is a Dell Dual
  > > 2.4Ghz
   > > > XEON with 512Mb Ram.
   > > >
   > > > Every few days I get the error "HTTP/1.1 New Session Failed" and the
  > > server
   > > > stops showing the sites. It comes right after a bit and then comes
back.
  > > I
   > > > have separed the sites into 10 per application pool but it still
does it.
   > > > Occassionally it will actually work but the sessions just keep
resetting
  > > and
   > > > the users get loged out of admin sections every 2 or 3 minutes.
   > > >
   > > > There is a hotifx 838306 which according to MS is in SP1 but
according to
   > > > everyone else, is NOT. It wont install on SP 1 because it needs
another
   > > > hotfix first (837001), which will not install because there is a
later
   > > > version of the 2nd hotfix in SP1. Catch 22!
   > > >
   > > > So my solution is to set up my server to reboot every night at 2am.
That
   > > > keeps it going.... barely.
   > > > People keep saying you don't need to rebook, just recycle the app
pools.
   > > > Well that does not fix anything, only a cold reboot solves the
  > > problem... for
   > > > a few hours anyway.
   > > >
   > > > UURRRRGGGG! Please can someone help.
  > ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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